Friends,
I just responded to a young woman’s blog. And naturally, it seemed to blame everything on the conservatives rather than the progressives who have abandoned women.
In perspective, 1942. Women were an honored part of society. They were productive. They were part of families. Few children needed free food to keep from starving.
Significantly less than 10% of women or children were abused.
Now? Half of women are afraid of marriage – they fear being part of a family. Half of our children need free food. A third of our children are obese – because they do not have full time mothers. And the number of abused women and children?
Through the roof. I saw one study claiming over a third of our women are sexually abused & raped. By the time they finish college.
Friends, especially ladies, the angry progressive agenda failed us and you. It lied to us. It told us that the ‘weaker sex’ needed protection against ‘angry’ men. But, they really needed protection against the angry progressives who used and abused them.
Can we regain the honored position women deserve in our society?
Or, do you think it is too late?
Wayne
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Being scared can be a GREAT motivator! If young people today are scared for their future, who do you suppose is going to do something to change it? THEY ARE and THEY MUST! Sad as it is to say, it’s easy to sit back and lay blame on previous generations, as much as it’s easy to sit on the sidelines waiting for someone else to ‘fix’ the problem.
We HAVE to find a way to engage our next generation in SOLVING the problem, not just reiterating what we already know to be true.
As to the statement that “married couples do not see the problems around them”…I can and do hardily disagree. As a 30 year marriage veteran, my husband and I have seen and gone through all the last 3 decades have had to offer. The Good, the bad, and the ugly!
However, I stand by my own personal philosophy that we reap what we sow. Yes, I know, that’s not an original thought. But that does not make it any less true. I am a mother…I have raised sons who now have sons of their own. It was my mission as a Mother to pass on the belief that nothing changes as long as the only thing being exchanged is talk! Our young need to know they are empowered to do things differently…they need to know that they may not receive instant gratification for the work they do…that perhaps it’ll be the next generation or even the one after that sees the fruits of their labor…but in the long run, it’s worth it.
We are not in a perfect place, but I do know, it’s not the world of the 60s or 70s or 80s either. Do I think I’m better off today than I was 4 years ago? No. Do I think there is anything I can do about it? Yes! Obvious politics aside, our lives and our world change…daily, weekly, monthly, yearly. The worst we can do is adapt. The best we can do is help perpetuate change. Were I to speak with the youth of today, that is the message I would give, much as that was the message given to me.
A quote by David Viscott for you:
“The purpose of life is to discover your gift. The meaning of life is to give your gift away.”
You have the gift…share it with these young folks…help them realize they are part of the solution!
Rhonda
Rhonda, We need more people telling the message! Wayne
Yes Wayne, we do. But what do we need MORE? People LIVING the message, not just talking about it.
Our children begin learning before we even realize we are teaching…because they learn from what they “see”.
When the time comes for directed education…we begin with pictures, because they learn from what they “see”.
If people really want change, they must be willing to live what they preach. We must be visual aides and not just talking heads.
We all have opportunities to “show” our young people how to get their feet dirty and their hands wet. We owe it to them and to ourselves, to teach them that one person CAN make a difference by being THAT ONE PERSON.
All change begins with an idea and with one person willing to put the idea into motion. One becomes two, becomes four, becomes sixteen, and so on. Before you know it we are on the path to change.
The young who now fear for their future have two choices…get out there and start clearing a path or sit back and wait for someone else to do it for them. If they choose the latter, then they will have to live with what they get.
That’s what has happened with our country. Maybe if more good people were out there making waves and clearing paths we’d be giving our children a better future.
As it is right now…they better get busy.
I agree. But, we have been doing without for so long, we need both.
IMHO.
It would be very interesting to me to hear what these 6 young men and 2 young women have to say about their “own” upbringing! Why do you suppose, after decades of cultural in-fighting, it is still going on? Do they take ANY responsibility for the “mess” they see today? Do they blame their parents? Their government? I am truly interested in what they think and how they arrived at these particular perceptions.
Wayne, I think you know the answer to your question “How do we change from the angry and destructive progressive agenda?”…one conservative at a time! As to moving back to something people actually enjoy? IMHO…we need to go back to the basics, back tot the days when God and family were first, community was a way of life and not just a word, and loving thy neighbor was something we ALL did…not something we expected our government to do!
Just the fact that you had young people engaged in the conversation at all is a huge step in the right direction. Let’s just be sure to let them know that they are part of the solution…we need their help to become the great nation we once were and I know, we can still be!
First and foremost, they are scared.
They ‘know’ that what they are taught to believe is a mess. Not everyone I talk to wants to believe I am telling the truth, or how much of what I discuss is ‘truth.’ But, they know there has to be a better way of life.
They hope, marriage may still be a good way to go.
But, they are scared.
They have NEVER known a different way of life. Even if they come from ‘nuclear’ families, ‘everyone’ around them is not. And they feel the pervasive cultural attack is against them.
Most older people fit in one of two categories. Single, or single again. They are similar to younger people, but they remember better times. AND they are scarred. Terribly scarred as well as scared.
Then there are married people. Most of them feel they are doing well, but they do NOT see the problems around them.
Wayne
At the risk of being presumptuous…I invite you to visit and comment on my most recent blog…boys-to-men.net where I am beginning a series that may be of interest to you. This issue is as timely and relevant now as it was 40 years ago…how come? We have work to do.
Rhonda
Don’t we?
How do we grow men to be men, when they are programmed to believe the ‘female side’ of their brain is kinder and gentler? And that they should be male versions of their female counterparts?
I have spoken with six young men, and two young women, this last week …. and they ALL agreed that our culture is a mess. And they agreed they fear their future.
How do we change from the angry and destructive progressive agenda? How do we move back to something people actually enjoy?
Wayne
I don’t mean to be offensive or disrespectful. And I am always interested in the opinion of others. But I cannot help but be appalled by your views. Women suffered a lot more abuse before, it just wasn’t reported or considered as such since it was at the hand of the almighty men (husbands and fathers).. And don’t get me started on the rest of what you wrote! Progress and equality between the sexes is one of the best things from the 20th century, even if we still have a long way to go
Really?
50% of our children need financial support …. 33% of our first time marriages fail …. And some say a third of our women are victims?
How can you say it is better?
I talk with women all the time, and very few think their lives are better. I think less than 10% see today as better than 1950.
Where do you get your ‘data?’
What would better look like to you? 95% divorce rates?
50% abuse rates?
Where does ‘progressive’ end, and repair begin?
Wayne
Wayne, you strike me as someone who’d agree with a well-known biblical passage, “My people perish for lack of knowledge” (Hosea 4;6) so respectfully, I’d like to say you’re being very dishonest and irresponsible here, particularly in your assumptions about how much “better” life was for women prior to 1950.
Let’s first step away from all the hurt feelings about conservatives verses liberals or what not, and truly consider about what it means simply to be a person – a human being entitled to all the benefits of the Lockean principles embedded in our Constitution — life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Are women not deserving of these, too? Based on your own assertions above, it seems the only value you place on women is their ability to bear and provide for children, and to attend to hearth and home. However, women’s progress from this narrow vocation has benefited society as a whole. It contributes to a robust and competitive economy, marked diversity of ideas in classroom and boardroom and sets a standard for respect and equality in the home. Not only do women attend college at the same rates as men, but are in many programs surpassing men in graduate school enrollment. Without listing more and more milestones, I think we can say these are things to be celebrated, not disparaged. A woman’s decision to postpone marriage and pursue endeavors of importance to her should be honored and respected in the same way you might respect a man’s decision to make those choices for himself. Of course, career and family are not mutually exclusive, but an individual – any individual – has a right to plot the course for his or her own future. Certainly you would applaud a young woman in your family for setting her sights high, and still looking forward to marriage and family, if those are her choices.
I’m going to disagree with your post and your position, because you’re either strategically avoiding the realities women and children faced, say, prior to “women’s liberation” or you simply aren’t aware of them. First of all, with advances in our public health and law enforcement infrastructure, we simply have available to us much more data on domestic and community violence, as well as child abuse and neglect. Even today, abuse goes underreported, so why were abuse rates were so low in 1942? (I’d like to see your sources on this) The issue leads to a second point that you’re ignoring — our culture condoned the mistreatment of women. Plain and simple. Men were allowed to treat their wives as property, so they (we) had far less autonomy than they have today. As such, abuse and mistreatment went unseen and unheard (or simply ignored) by authorities and, yes, by churches. This is further supported by the fact that courts were even reluctant to recognize domestic abuse as the crime that it truly was, and deferred to women’s husbands as their de facto fathers (and wardens). See generally, State v. Pendergrass 2 Dev. & B., N.C. 365 (1837); Joyner v. Joyner 59 N.C. 322 (1862); State v. Black 60 N.C. 262 (1864); State v. Rhodes 61 N.C. 453 (1868).
For women, life was not some blissful frolic through the fields. Even the law was set against them. You’re doing a disservice to yourself and to others by peddling these fudged and skewed numbers as though they prove anything substantive about the joys of being an unemployed baby factory who couldn’t vote or protect herself from physical harm in the home.
I appreciate what you’re trying to do on this blog, and I hope you don’t take my comments the wrong way, however you’re really taking the wrong angle on this. I view blogging as an opportunity to challenge myself and to delve into a thought-provoking and important topic – with accuracy. You’ve supplied no evidence to suggest that “Half of women are afraid of marriage – they fear being part of a family” or that it’s the fault of working mothers that childhood obesity has become an epidemic.
All in all, you’re just being mean-spirited and unfair – which isn’t something solely conservative or liberal.
IF any of your spurious claims were true about my lack of character:
I would just delete your post.
Regards,
Wayne
Thanks, Wayne, for showing your sincere desire to engage in open, honest discussion with others. You can go ahead and delete my post. It’s been fun. Have a blessed day.
Presh,
Did you read what you wrote? Were you open to discussion or differing opinions?
I will have a great day. I serve that Great God you mocked and misquoted.
Ezekiel Chapters 3 & 33 are appropriate.
Don’t you think?
Wayne
Like I said, I’m done. You clearly don’t want to talk, and you didn’t really read my original post, so please go ahead and delete my post. Take it easy, and have a great afternoon, my friend.
No. I read your post. And it was intentionally offensive.
Wasn’t that your intent?
The number one current link between abused children and life around them is either, step family, or homosexuality. Take your choice.
The number one link to poverty among children is the single mother.
Go ahead, tell me that we are doing better for our women today than we were in 1942.
Tell me a woman today could become the next Majorie Post ….
Wayne
Nope, you completely missed the point. Really, have a good one. Sorry I dropped by.
Then what was your point?
You wrote that women are better off now. You wrote they were badly treated before. I disagree. Most women disagree.
So, how are a few rhetorical tools discussion?
Wayne
I hope its not too late.
I agree!
How do we make things better?
Wayne
hmm… I guess we as woman should start by being so body conscious.
I am not sure how that relates. But, it sounds good.
Would you tell me more?
Wayne